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 12/21/2007 2:56:03 PM
Neveragain
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110kph on the way!!!

Hi all. Bad news. I have just had lunch with a freind that is involved with the NT labor party in the NT. One of the measures that the NT government is poised to take is to place all highways at 110kph. (no more 130) This due to the worst road toll in ten years. They need to be seen to be doing something.

This will be the end of the ALP in the NT!!! I cannot express how stupid these people really are.

 12/21/2007 3:30:08 PM
The Gecko
229 posts
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Re: 110kph on the way!!!

Well, we're not really surprised at all to hear this because myself and the Administrator predicted this would happen. Mind you, we did not think it would occur as a result of the horrendous road toll, but because we thought they would just eventually ratchet the limit down so as to not piss off everybody all at once. We thought that maybe they would do it after a couple of years once people had learned to "tolerate" the 130 limit.

If they are stupid enough to go ahead and lower the limit to 110 then so be it, it will not reduce the road toll, if anything it will make it much worse through more deaths via fatigue. Myself, the Administrator, and a lot of territorians with much more common sense than the politicians that govern them, know what the real issues are on NT roads.

Let's make this clear once and for all  SPEEDING IS NOT AN ISSUE ON NT HIGHWAYS, AND IN FACT, SPEEDING IS NOT AN ISSUE IN THE NT.      

The NT HAS THE LOWEST INCIDENCE OF SPEED RELATED FATALITIES IN AUSTRALIA AT 17%, THE HIGHEST IS NSW AT 40%. AND, THIS WAS BEFORE THE INTRODUCTION OF SPEED LIMITS ON THE HIGHWAY, BEFORE DEMERITS, AND BEFORE FIXED SPEED/RED LIGHT CAMERAS.

I mean really, these politicians are absolute ****heads, excuse the french.

If they want to be seen to do something then they can tackle the real issues. In fact, I will even offer an olive branch to the ALP - I will personally sit down with them with my research and tell them what the real issues are seen as though they are too stupid to work it out for themselves.

Mr Henderson, Chief Minister, or should that be Chief ****head, contact the administrator of this site via email and we will work through the real issues with you. We know what we're talking about, because unlike your incompetent Taskforce, we have actually done our homework and analysed the road statistics in the NT.

Call me!!

 

 12/21/2007 4:26:13 PM
Keepleft
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Re: 110kph on the way!!!

Certainly to be expected, indeed predicted in forum here ages back.  As a 'rural default', the limit of itself is also a failure and is too high an 'absolute' for the low-grade roads such a restriction is meant to serve.  This is why we see 'noise' in WA to drop that back to 80-90km/h.

Rem though, individual roads within can be signposted with higher limits or derestriction.

All quite an aside from the fact that derestriction should be re-instated to NT's key highways.  (IMV).

I've asked 7:30 Report to look again at this story, here is their previous:-

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2006/s1780096.htm

Perhaps as folk say, they really don't get the message, such is apathy??

 

 


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 12/27/2007 10:42:44 PM
BMWMotorsport
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Re: 110kph on the way!!!
Wikipedia even recognize what speed limits have done, check this out >>

"The Northern Territory was one of the few remaining places in the world that had unlimited road speed limits. From 1 January 2007 there is a default speed limit of 110km/h on roads outside of urban areas (Inside urban areas of 40, 50 or 60km/h) - Otherwise signposted of 130km/h on some straight highways (e.g. The Stuart Highway)[6]

As of June 2007 however road deaths are up 28.6 per cent on last year. The road toll has also increased, by 35.7 per cent.[7] 

Read about it here>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Territory#Chief_Minister

( / / ) - Divorces Traffic (130) - Marries It.
 1/4/2008 3:15:38 PM
The Gecko
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Re: 110kph on the way!!!
 Neveragain wrote

Hi all. Bad news. I have just had lunch with a freind that is involved with the NT labor party in the NT. One of the measures that the NT government is poised to take is to place all highways at 110kph. (no more 130) This due to the worst road toll in ten years. They need to be seen to be doing something.

This will be the end of the ALP in the NT!!! I cannot express how stupid these people really are.

Any more updates on this absurd idea to reduce the highway limit even further to 110kmh?

 1/4/2008 5:57:36 PM
Neveragain
123 posts
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Re: 110kph on the way!!!

I have heard some unsubstantiated rumours that they plan to slip in the laws in conjuction of the opening of parts of the water front development. Through the back door as it were.

But I believe that no matter how they do it, the electorate will see them for what they are. A group of people that have become arrogant and aloof. They have adopted the mind set of a government that thinks that it is all knowing and all seeing. And that they know what is best for everyone.  When actually they are showing signs of gross incompetance.

It was a nice feeling on the 1/1/08 to think that there is an election next year. It give me hope. Another 3 years of the current ALP and I think that the only people left here will be un empolyable indiginies....... What hope does the NT have then?

 1/9/2008 8:06:09 PM
darwin boy
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Re: 110kph on the way!!!

Hi All

I just read this on Pistonheads, a UK Motor website.  They were trying to lower the limit to 50mph from 60mph in Liconshire, it was rejected by the council. I have cut and pasted the below reply from a Doctor.

As a reagular commuter on Lincolnshire's wonderful roads (anyone who has driven on the A52 or A17 will back me up), I am very glad about this rejection of the 50mph speed limit.

The problem with Lincolnshire's roads are that they just cannot handle the sheer weight of traffic that uses them. The A52 for example is the main transport link with Boston and Skegness and apart from the A17 is the only road that goes East-West. It is therefore filled with lorries, tractors, learners etc that arn't even going 50mph. You therefore end up with people overtaking at totally inappropriate places that results in fatalities.

Understand, it is not the speed that kills, it is the frustration due to 20 miles behind a lorry doing 40mph and then overtaking where the conditions and road are poor, resulting in head on collisions due to poor visability, or coming off the road due to a bend that you did not think was there! As a trauma doctor in Boston, I see these accidents all the time, and very few of them are due to people doing 60mph.

Bringing down the speed limit to 50mph WILL NOT HELP...what Lincolnshire needs to do is build more duel carrageway overtaking spots or duel carrageway the entire A52/A17. Only then will the accident rate come down. Surely I'm not the only one that feels this way!?!
 
I wish the F@@@@@@@ doctors over here in Aus would put their thinking caps on like this chap.
 1/10/2008 9:38:16 AM
Administrator
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Re: 110kph on the way!!!

Thank you very much we will use this in our arguements.

 6/13/2008 12:40:32 AM
chrismwpcs
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Re: 110kph on the way!!!
It is a revenue raiser. They can say whatever they please, use all these excuses but at the end of the day it is a cash cow. In rural Australia, and in my case Port Hedland WA going from A to B is a long winded affair and many kilometres between towns but we are stuckk to the 110 limit. I use a radar detector but you still slow down when you see a car on the horizon. I typically sit on a 145, because we have hoon laws that get your car impounded. I  have a 2006 Commodore which can do this no problems but  tthe Government want our cash, go figure?
 6/13/2008 10:43:16 AM
The Gecko
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Re: 110kph on the way!!!

The whole sick thing about the NT speed limit saga is the FACT that the NT has the lowest incidence of speed related fatalities in Australia at a miserly 17%!!!

We at KeepNTLimitFree have done the research to prove this using the NT governments own Taskforce Report. Go to the report and work it out for yourself if you like, it's all in there.

Once we worked out the percentage of fatalities involving speed we compared it to all the other states and territories and the NT ranked a distant last. Victoria and NSW with all their fixed speed cameras and the like attributed 30% and 40% of all road fatalities to speed!!

This is a real conundrum as you can imagine and it certainly blew us away. Why? Well it's obvious.

Labor governments around this country continue with their bullshit propaganda that speed cameras save lives. If they do, then why do they attribute 30% and 40% of all road fatalities due to speed, whereas the NT prior to January 1 2007 only attributed 17% of all road deaths to speed.

Quite simply, the jig is up!!! SPEED CAMERAS DO NOT WORK!!

If speed cameras did the job they are supposed to do, then Victoria and NSW should have had fewer than 17% of all road fatalities attributed to speed!!!

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