Hopeless really. Reinstate (//) to existing key quality 130km/h zones, only derestriction imparts full responsibility for on road behaviours directly to a driver. Speed-limits imposed on better quality roads often simply mean complacency sets in. The nanny state is failing (tragically) and those involved in the process might I suggest begin to take good personal stock of themselves. Don't like it - resign. You treat adult populaces as wicked children, then bear the result without complaint.
Spare me from Australian Road Safety 'experts', enough already!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/15/2246041.htm
Northern Territory Police have defended the Government's decision to introduce speed limits on open roads.
Nineteen people have been killed on Territory roads so far this year - five more than the same period last year.
Superintendent Bob Rennie says it is frustrating that drivers are not getting the message to slow down.
"When you continue to go to these crashes and you see what has happened to these people and you hear them screaming and you hear them crying or they're already deceased and then having to go knock on a door and tell someone they've just lost a loved one, it's very, very frustrating and you become quite angry over it."
Police across Australia are calling on motorists to drive safe in a bid to make tomorrow a fatality-free day.
More:-
http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2008/05/16/4124_ntnews.html
"Territorians have had a horror year on the roads -- with 19 lives already lost, compared with 14 this time last year.This figure may yet rise to 20 once police finish investigations into last week's hit-and-run death in Batchelor of 43-year-old Trevor Robert Read".
Sounds like the NT police have been brainwashed just like their southern counterparts.
Supt.Rennie, if you are out there somewhere and reading these forums I have a piece of advice to you.
Get your head out of your arse and have a look at reality, because reality is that most deaths in the NT have nothing to do with speed. For the record, most speeding related deaths occur in urban areas, not on the highways.
We at KeepNTLimitFree have done the research, more specifically, I have done the research, and the problems are:
* Non wearing of seat belts
* Drink driving
* Pedestrian deaths which in 80-85 percent of cases involve the pedestrian being drunk
* Single vehicle rollover, which relates to non-wearing of seat belts, and
* Tourist deaths
Rennie, I can rattle off stats that would make your head spin and I am 100% confident that speeding is not the root of the high per capita road toll in the NT.
If you really want to save lives instead of raise revenue, then contact us and we will show you the evidence. Maybe we can even offer some ideas.
But, so long as you and your idiotic superiors continue with this whole charade that speed kills, then the road toll will continue to hover around 50 per annum.
I am sorry mate, but Supt Rennie, you're an idiot, as is your police force but the biggest idiots are the NT Labor government that introduced all these road rules that will do nothing to reduce the toll.
Hi All
Is it possible to get a detailed description of all road deaths in the NT, or is this the sole property of the NT police.
This is the only way we can fight these uninformed comments like the tripe spat out by Rennie. Imagine if Rennie had to stand up in a court of law and try and defend himself, I think he would fail misarbly.These fools truly believe their own bullshit. These new road rules are morally corupt because they totally disregarded the true causes of road deaths within the NT.
For this reason people like Rennie, Delia Lawrie and Claire Martin should hang their heads in shame.
Fight the bastards with facts and avoid the emotional responses that they spit out on a regular basis.
Yes it is and we have it. The problem is getting our message out there as the main stream gulible media is in the pocket ot the government.
We are looking for corporate sponsors so we can pay for advertising and so expose the lies they constantly submit us too. Any ideas please let us know as we have TV advertising, print media etc which would prove what you are saying.
Mr Administrator
Do you have detailed reports similar to the reports put out by the ATSB.
I have just read a 17 page PDF report about a Westwind jet that depressurised out of Darwin in April 2007. This is the type of report we need with fatal car accidents. I come from an aviation background so I have an interest in this area.
The only way of getting to the bottom of any accident is this type of reporting.
Hi all, I got home last night from Darwin. I left Darwin at first light and arrived back in the Alice at about 21:30. I had to endure two and a half hours of night driving because of the new speed limits. Thanks NT ALP!!! Usually I would be safely at home by about dusk. I had four close calls with roos and was down to 80 kph for the last two hours. But we all know this is now the case. People are being forced into driving in conditions far worse than carrying a little extra speed!!
But what was really interesting was that the whole way to Darwin and back I saw absolutely no police at all. At one stage I was cruising along at 160kph (whithout realising it) and I started to think about just how dumb these speed limits are. It also re-enforced my opposition to them.
Bring on the election.!!!
I hope enough Darwinians are pissed off enough to roll the current load of buffoons out of office!!!
Unfortunately the NT police do not analise crashes to determine the speed of a vehicle on impact. How can they then impose a law with no evidentiary base which is of course what we have been saying from day one?
So to answer your question there are no detailed crash reports available like the ones you were referring to. However the Gecko has access to government statistics as we have bought the ATSB road statistics raw data. When this was scrutinized objectively it clearly proved that the imposition of speed limits on the open road has done nothing to lower the road toll in any other State or Territory in Australia. Also for the record Demerit points made no difference either.
The fact is these restrictive rules are only really there to increase revenue for the government and are not based upon evidence. What we need to do now is to get sponsors so we can pay for advertising to explain to the majority that we are all being screwed over.
Great work & thanks. Our T shirts are a clever way of keeping the speeding issue alive. Ideally we need more people to wear them to more events in this way we can inform people about the truth of the matter.
Thank you once again for all your support.