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 3/13/2009 7:50:26 PM
Doug
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Road Toll NT
 Modified By Administrator  on 3/15/2009 1:52:29 AM)
An open letter to the Northern Territory Legislature
Re the Road Toll in the Northern Territory.

One presumes that laws and regulations for the good of a State or Territory are based on sound principles. Some may be moral and some may be based on evidence.  A law, when introduced, should follow a principle and that principle should be reflected in the results of that law when enacted and implemented.

An open letter to the Northern Territory Legislature
Re the Road Toll in the Northern Territory.

Let us take the recent introduction of speed limits on Northern Territory roads. These, presumably, were brought in to lower the road toll and prevent deaths and injuries. We can see how in other jurisdictions how laws have affected road tolls. If we look at the road toll in the Northern Territory since 1960 in terms of number of deaths per 100 000 of population (therefore corrected for population changes), we can see a gradual drop from the mid 1970s. However, from 2000, unlike other states, the drop rate has smoothed out, and in fact from 2006 has increased. This is evident not only from the raw data but as a smoothed five-point moving average.

Click here for graph of the facts

Prudent thought, and scientific (mathematical) principles would suggest that measures introduced in 2007 have not only been unsuccessful in maintaining the road toll or reducing it, but rather increasing it.

Establishment of a causual link is beyond the scope of my letter, but suggestions which could be investigated have been made elsewhere.

The change, which has resulted in more deaths, is the introduction of the 130 km/hr open road limit. By any measure, including compassion for the families of those whose deaths have created a greater number than would have been otherwise, the limit should be repealed. This statement is based purely on the evidence as presented by the statistics which are publicly available, without recourse to emotion.

 2/11/2010 9:01:18 PM
Doug
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Unfortunately rational debate seems to elicit no response.

Measures which do lower the road toll but are unpalatable to governments are not even considered (e.g. lower speed for trucks, enforcing seat belt, vehicle loading, lower blood alcohol levels) but measures which do not lower the road toll but appeal to the electorate are legislated into being without any assessment into their effectiveness.

Just as an aside, but a very big one:
in Victoria, B-doubles and now triples are becoming more common. To overtake a car travelling at 80 km/hr in under 700 m means the overtaker MUST exceed the state speed limit. To overtake a car and trailer (caravan) at 80 km/hr in under 800 m means the overtaker MUST exceed the state speed limit. To overtake a B-double at 80 km/hr means the overtaker MUST exceed the state speed limit. To overtake any vehicle which is travelling at over 85 km/hr means the overtaking vehicle MUST exceed the state speed limit.
To overtake and stay within the speed limit in the examples quoted above requires staying on the wrong side of the road for over 30 seconds. I don't know about anyone else, but I want to minimise my time in "harm's way" and so …
I like to think of myself as a law-abiding driver, but what do I do when the law conflicts with commonsense.
In the NT, to overtake a B-double travelling at 95 km/hr, the 130 limit will be exceeded if you need to pass in less than 800 m and you'll still spend 25 seconds in "harm's way".

Pause a moment then when you hear the righteous say there is never any reason to exceed the speed limit!

 3/9/2010 2:29:35 AM
Administrator
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Doug, we would like to quote some of your excellent facts in a media release, is this ok by you?
 3/9/2010 6:29:26 AM
Doug
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Certainly.
 3/9/2010 3:40:50 PM
Doug
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You can email me directly if you want permission in writing.
 3/17/2010 7:26:36 AM
Administrator
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Ok I will be in touch shortly
 7/5/2010 5:31:58 PM
Paul2000
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What happened to the politician (forgot his name) caught doing 145km/h and made the excuse "I was distracted by the music"?

Wasn't he one of the ones that canned the open speed limit. Crazy isn't it! Then the tax payer had to pay to have his government vehicle fitted with cruise control
 7/21/2010 8:22:41 AM
Neveragain
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The road toll is creeping up again. The last fatality was blamed on the fog. I am at a lost to see how the fog could be blamed for a road death. If the driver was driving to the conditions, she would be here with us today. Fatigue is the most likely candidate...... and the fact that she was probably driving to the posted speed!!!!
 7/22/2010 2:56:27 PM
Neveragain
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Howl ong before the NT government get bullied into doing this. Best stay away from NSW guys.

 

http://www.caradvice.com.au/50781/nsw-state-wide-speed-limit-90kmh/

 7/31/2010 8:09:36 AM
Paul2000
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Sad to see almost all of the deaths happen in 100km/h and lower speed zones. I saw a comment somewhere saying our roads and cars are getting better yet the speed limit is getting lower.
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